A few years ago I made this flow chart of which Mastodon posts end up in which timelines!
So, you can see how each instance will have a different local timeline, and even a slightly different federated timeline - and you can see why the federated timeline moves so much faster than the local one, too.
This is why it's important to boost good posts and use hashtags - the fediverse is fragmented and harder to search by nature.
I post this diagram sometimes during new member influxes and this one has had almost 400 boosts in under 24 hours (a lot for me), so you know this time it's a biggie. :O
400 boosts is basically mega-viral for the Fediverse in my experience? This diagram is so reliably helpful for newbies, I'm really happy to be able to provide it. :D (I consider it public domain, feel free to throw it about the place.)
@luciledt @fiskfan1999 If relays don't exist, what are all these merged pull requests involving relays about? :D https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pulls?q=is%3Apr+relay
I made this diagram before relays were added to Mastodon, but as I understand it, anything from another instance ends up in the federated timeline regardless of how it got there. The federated timeline is a list of ALL posts that your instance "knows about". If you don't follow someone on another instance, their posts will only be in the federated timeline.
@cassolotl something this leaves off is that any post that shows in the home column will also show in any other relevant ones too, iwrc?
@cassolotl cool chart. I tried to post a link to this tweet on Twitter and, LoL it was blocked as potentially harmful content.
@T0nyyates Wow, bizarre! Feel free to just re-upload the image, I kinda consider it public domain really. :)
@cassolotl I wonder if it would make sense to implement a "quiet boost" feature.
Sometimes I want my followers to be able to find a post, but I don't want to boost it directly because I don't want to flood their timelines or because the post is missing a CW.
@cassolotl It might be worth supporting, but you can see in the comments that there have been similar proposals and the response boiled down to "this is essentially quote retweet, which is useful for harassment, which is bad".
Plus it's unclear how this would be implemented on the ActivityPub level.
So perhaps we need a more specific proposal, with technical details and with considerations for abuse prevention.
@cassolotl That graphic is helpful for helping me get a handle on the specifics. I think this might explain why I see so many people with different accounts on different instances. Partitioning.
@xinit Yeah! And I was on cybre.space and loved the UI but the local and even the federated timeline weren't really super interesting to me, and when I switched to queer.party the local and federated timelines were more suited to my tastes and that was cool. It's like each instance has a slightly shifted partial view of the fediverse!
@cassolotl thanks for this. It is handy to know as a new user to Mastodon.
It seems like hashtags are more important than ever.
@GreatBigTable You're welcome! :) Also yes, and I've seen people struggle with it because it's counterintuitive - on other sites (like instagram) posting a lot of hashtags is kinda spammy, but here it's less about sales/numbers and more about just finding nice people to connect to, so hashtags are encouraged - and it's hard to change gears for a lot of people I think!
@cassolotl if my instance blocks another instance, can I still follow someone from the blocked instance or does that stop my account from interacting with anyone on it entirely?
@SkipSandwichDX I'm not 100% sure but I *think* if your instance blocks another instance that does cut users off from each other entirely. Someone else may jump in to correct me though!
as far as i know you can still get stuff delivered to your home timeline by following folks. but for that you have to access their account via their instances website and follow them from there. and its hard to even know about their existence because they will obviously not appear in your instances federated and local timelines.
@glowl @cassolotl @SkipSandwichDX Having briefly been cut-off from someone myself in the past due to an instance block, I can reliably say that an actual instance block does completely cut off all communication between the instances and removes followers/followees. There are lighter forms of instance blocks/mutes though, which only e.g. drop the content from public timelines.
@cassolotl this is super helpful, and also helps me grok the point/benefits of choosing your local instance around interest too, because your local timeline is full of folks who you may not follow but are all taking about similar topics!
@cassolotl I only see 170~ but I’m guessing that’s because of differences in which instances our instances federate and don’t federate with. Or other weirdness.
Also that’s impressive! I had a post a day or two ago that got 500+ boosts and 500+ favorites over a day and a half and that was crazy for me.
@Byte I feel like the most I'd gotten before was about 200 or so? So 500+ is definitely a lot still!
@Byte I wonder if putting the toot URL in the search box and pressing enter pulls in the up-to-date stats like with does with profile URLs?
@littlegravitas I feel super-weird about it but actually I mostly don't automatically follow back - I am very particular about who I follow in order to avoid feeling overloaded on social media! I know from experience that if there's too much and it's mostly irrelevant I will just feel increasingly terrible until I unfollow like 99% of people and start over. Oof. :D
@cassolotl Very wise. Really no need, in my case: I estimate that this site is much less follower-competitive than somewhere else.
@littlegravitas Yeah I think you're right about Mastodon being less follower-competitive, some instances even entirely hide follower/follow counts by design. There was one witchy instance that showed everyone's follow/follower number as 666, regardless of the true number, that was fun. :D Its replacement is eldritch.cafe, I think it's still going!
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