@jalcine my website CMS is very much built around #indieweb concepts. http://publ.beesbuzz.biz
@KevinMarks @jalcine microformats are easy to add via templates, havenβt looked into webmentions specifically yet but itβs on my radar yes
@KevinMarks @jalcine its all a work in progress of course and Iβve been mostly focused on the βgetting content onlineβ aspects so far. Also Iβm not entirely clear on the best way to reconcile webmention stuff with not having a permanent store for things that arenβt directly content-related.
@KevinMarks @jalcine like the easy way to implement it would be to just send out a mention any time the content file gets indexed and to send any incoming mention to an email address but that would get real spammy real quick. But I want to avoid making a persistent database or filesystem important since that opens up a bunch of deployment opportunities and simplifies migration.
@KevinMarks @jalcine and at least on my main site beesbuzz.biz I opt to just use disqus for comment stuff but I donβt think disqus supports webmention as a recipient. It feels like this is a thing that should be handled by an external service to me.
@KevinMarks @jalcine oh I guess telegraph can be that service
@KevinMarks @jalcine anyway this prompted me to finally put some formal thoughts down about it, at https://github.com/fluffy-critter/Publ/issues/128 - feel free to join in on the issue if I've completely missed something!
@KevinMarks @jalcine Ah, neat! That simplifies things a lot yeah.
I don't mind relying on external services for social stuff (see also my reliance on Disqus for comments) so that's certainly suitable for me.
@KevinMarks @jalcine oh although it looks like Bridgy might do what I want too.
@KevinMarks @jalcine okay I just found webmention.io which looks really easy to set up :)
@KevinMarks @jalcine and the reason I was looking at bridgy was because it seemed like they provided an endpoint to use with disqus (which is already what I use on my website) but its documentation seems to focus on one-click install for existing hosted services and isnβt immediately obvious how to integrate it into a new bit of software.
@fluffy @jalcine ask snarfed about it at https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/ - indiewebcamp NYC is on today and tomorrow so lot of indieweb dev going on
@KevinMarks @jalcine thanks, this is a bit too intense for me on a low-spoons day though
@KevinMarks so hey, with the h-card microformat, is there a way to either specify "get this from another URL" or to put it onto elements that won't be visible on text-only/non-CSS browsers? I still try to make my sites work reasonably well in lynx and w3m :)
@fluffy does display:none work in lynx? You can use abbr or data elements to create hidden attributes, but it's preferred to use visible ones if possible. There is also the indieweb authorship model so you don't need to put a full h-card on every post. https://indieweb.org/authorship. Also https://indieweb.org/representative_h-card for when you have multiple, but one is key.
@KevinMarks lynx doesnβt even know what CSS is.
Iβll check the authorship model, thanks! Wish Iβd found that in any of the indieweb things, before Iβd plumbed all my hcard junk through my templates. :)
@KevinMarks okay wow that is confusing as heck. Canβt I just declare an appropriate <link rel> to an XML doc and call it a day?
@fluffy @jalcine I love the style of it - have you looked into adding microformats and webmentions? https://indiewebify.me/ can help, and chat.indieweb.org is there if you want to talk indieweb