queer people in China 

@IngaLovinde ok so we’re kinda not in a good moment atm but I asked gf anyway for her opinions, she’s share slides n stuff later:

she says that political scientist or not she’s not Chinese and doesn’t want to be seen as knowing the truth about Chinese people and their testimony comes first. she says that according to testimony number 1 problem is family pressure, and government or laws barely comes in the equation.

queer people in China 

@IngaLovinde
most queer people remain closeted, and the major reason given is family pressure. most homosexual people are on heterosexual marriages, because of family. most queer people have experience violence on their youth, from within the family.

government is basically indifferent to the lgbt question. she theorises they turned a blind eye to it in the past due to the One Child Policy, but there’s no policy documents, no nothing, so this is only speculation.

queer people in China 

@IngaLovinde
govt will crack down on lgbt activism, if the activism is critical in any way; but only to the same extent that they’ll crack down on any sort of civil society activism, NGOs etc.

so if you run a campaign to clean a river, govt will support and even finance your activism. but if you question why is the river being polluted, you might be disappeared. same if you help fellow gay ppl with AIDS prevention (ok, tap on back) vs. question family policies (subversive)

queer people in China 

@IngaLovinde she did a lot of research on HIV prevention cause this is one of the few areas where the govt even talks about queer people at all at an official level; otherwise they’re mostly invisible & marginalised.

of course "government" in China as elsewhere translate to "bunch of conservative old men", and she doesn’t expect them to be positive about queer people. but it’s not something they usually go actively after.

queer people in China 

@IngaLovinde there’s been official policy on censoring gayness out of imported media. she thinks this is a gesture towards their conservative base of support: with the power grab towards escalating totalitarianism the Chinese govt needs their devotees more than ever, and the kind of person who supports the Party would not support a government seem as weak on "morals".

but for queer people the problem isn’t the police, the problem is their parents and neighbours and bosses.

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@IngaLovinde
(usual caveat that foreigners get a pass due to being 'outside' mainstream society anyway, same as Japan.)

in Taiwan everything is very different and despite the kinda propagandisation of it made by the govt, societal attitudes do in fact differ concretely, civil society is strong, and she thinks Taipei at least would be a nice place for queer people to live, relatively speaking.
("what about Singapore?" "What?? No—no, that’s the worst of all, don’t go there")

queer people in China 

@elilla we have a couple friends from Tainan (southern Taiwan) and from their words it seems that society attitude in Taiwan does not differ much from that of China (and the difference between rural and urban might be much wider).

What's interesting is that it seemed as if they don't distinguish between any kinds of "non-traditional" relationships, with e.g. polyam being treated the same as LGB...

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